星体运作的能力(资格)、动力(能量)、以及最终完成度
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之前在日记《Delphic Oracle 5中的Preliminary Natal Analysis模块》很明确的提到过这个概念,只是因为没有举例子,很少有人关注。
今天把国外论坛的例子提出来,点评一下,应该会清楚很多。
一、先把原日记的关于星体运作的能力(资格)、动力(能量)、以及最终完成度的部分重新写一遍
图片显示的是PNA dynamical level子模块,该模块采用矩阵形式分析。
列模块从fitness、energy、completion三个方面分析星体的是否具有能力(资格)、动力(能量)、以及最终完成度带给盘主它征象的事宜。
而行模块从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面三大角度,分析星体是否具有能力带给盘主征象的事宜。
1、fitness层面
该层面分析的是星体是否具有资格、天赋、能力带给盘主征象的事宜(需要指出的是,有天赋不代表有机遇!)
分析星体是否有天赋,则可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:整宫分宫下,星体在角宫、续宫下具有资格,而在果宫下则相对虚弱无力,基本不具备带给盘主征象事宜的能力。
B、与光体互动层面:星体顺行以及远离日光的情形下是有力的,可以带给盘主征象的事宜的,但是被燃烧以及逆行状况下是有很大问题的,较难带给盘主应当带给她的事宜。
C、星座层面:在入庙、擢升、自己的界主层面是极为有力的,在place of sect mate下,需要依赖sect mate的助力。
2、energy层面
该层面分析的是星体是否具有足够的动力、能里、机遇带给盘主征象的事宜,以及该事宜的影响程度大小(需要指出的是,有能量不代表有资格和能力)
分析星体是否有能量,依然可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:这次必须采用四分仪分宫了,星体在四分仪分宫的角宫、续宫具有足够的动力能量,而在果宫下则相对虚弱无力,基本不具备带给盘主征象事宜的动力。
B、与光体互动层面:星体偕日升以及处于顺逆行转换的交界状态中是极端强化的。
C、星座层面:需要从星体所落星座的三分主星层面判断三分主星带给星体的驱动力和能量。
3、completion层面
该层面分析的是星体最终带给盘主征象的事宜的完成度、终结度。
分析星体的完成度,依然可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:这次必须采用福点分宫了,简单地说星体在福点分宫的角宫、续宫带给盘主的事项是完成度高的,效果持久不可逆转的,而在果宫下则相对要弱化很多。
B、与光体互动层面:这次不是看与太阳的互动关系,而是看与月亮的出入相了。
C、星座层面:需要从星体所落星座的基本星座、固定星座、变动星座特质分析,固定星座基本会带来持久稳定,不可逆转的层面(所以相对金星落固定星座是件好事),变动星座则会最终带来事件的完成,但最终是偏题、跑题的。
二、然后把国外占星论坛希腊占星高手的例子点评一下
例子来源于astroweekly网站的
Part of Fortune aspects?
一个叫BOB的希腊占星高手,我节选他说的话如下:
Firstly, your LoF ruler is the malefic Saturn and the first condition is his fitness or ability within your cosmic fingerprint.
He is post ascending (succeedent) which means it has the potential to bring the fruits of your actions back to you, though it may not be immediate and may take a lot of work.
He is rising and direct in motion which increase his overall fitness and masculinity which is important for a masculine planet. Saturn, in order to be cosmically permitted to pursue his own agenda must be able to be seen in the sky (rising) and direct in motion.
As Saturn is in Sagittarius he is visible and in the place of a sect-mate, namely Jupiter. What this means is he loses some power to directly affect the things he signifies, but he can affect them and find outlet through his other sect-mates the Sun & Jupiter, if they are suitably placed. In plain English Saturn can affect the sign he is in, and the signs containing the Sun and Jupiter. This gives discipline to studies involving higher education and the higher mind (some foresight), creativity and some care in financial planning. It may be important to remember here that Saturn signifies old age; so much of this is describing what you may have achieved by then. As you are only young, you have your whole life in front of you, you will have many opportunities to grow, learn and adapt where by strengthening your cosmic weaknesses you can build a brighter future.
点评:这段评估的是星体的资格、天赋、能力层面,对应前面第一段的fitness层面,该层面分析的是星体是否具有资格、天赋、能力带给盘主征象的事宜(需要指出的是,有天赋不代表有机遇!)
Bob提的第一点就是星体在整宫分宫下的情况,星体整宫下落角宫最有能力,落续宫次之,最后是果宫。
Bob提的第二点就是与太阳的互动,星体在顺行和不被燃烧的情况下是有能力的,逆行和燃烧下虚弱或者不具备资格顺利带给盘主应该带来的事宜。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即星体落星座的入庙擢升守护是否能够支持或者乐于提供资源帮助宫内星。
The second condition looks at the energy of Saturn, while he may have ability to affect matters one needs to know how energetic he is in pursuing these things. First on the list here is whether he has any connection to the natal ascendant, which in your case is yes by dexter sextile. Second is whether or not he is making a phasis. Because phasis has many considerations I cannot go into them here. Suffice to say in your chart Saturn does not make a phasis in the allotted time. The third consideration is the trigon inhabited by Saturn. Schmidt says the trigons act like a wind helping one towards his destiny. In his own trigon the wind would be behind pushing one forward and assisting us, in a cooperating trigon is like a neutral (slightly favourable) wind. A foreign wind is not necessarily bad for it just shows that one will visit many unknown destinations (unpredictable). Saturn in your chart has a cooperating wind, this means that the energy behind Saturn is blowing you in a favourable direction, maybe not at light speed but he is getting to his destination in a slow but steady way.
点评:这段评估的是星体的动力(能量)层面,对应前面第一段的energy层面,该层面分析的是星体是否具有足够的动力、能量、机遇带给盘主征象的事宜,以及该事宜的影响程度大小(需要指出的是,有能量不代表有资格和能力)
Bob提的第一点就是星体与命度的关系,实际准确的说是四分仪分宫下,星体的落宫状况。
Bob提的第二点就是与太阳的互动,是否被燃烧,是否偕日升,是否处于将要逆行或者恢复顺行的临界状态,phasis简单的就是说太阳定义的星体的逆行、恢复顺行,燃烧,以及各种星力强化、减弱的临界状态。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即星体落星座的三分主星是否能够带给星体足够的动力。
Next comes 3 ways of assessing whether that planet completes or breaks off the energy he has put into his actions.
This first consideration is the planets relationship to the LoF houses. Saturn in your chart is in the 12th Fortuna house which is slightly unfavourable because it deflects away any positive actions from returning to you. This signifies that while Saturn in your chart has the ability to act and an appropriate energy level to perform, you may not hang around long enough to get the rewards you sometimes deserve. Alternatively, some other event may come up just when Saturn was about to give you his rewards, a bit like having the rug pulled from under your feet.
The second of these three conditions is lunar application which has to do with how long the effects of a particular action may last; applying would be long lasting, separating would mean moderately lasting or separated meaning of even shorter duration. In your case the lunar application is separating.
The third of these considerations is what quadruplicity Saturn is in. This consideration defines what happens to the significations initiated by Saturn; fixed is stable and long lasting, mutable indicates the actions would not be followed through to a completion, and cardinal indicate that what is started is later broken off.
Suffice to say, your Saturn occupies a mutable sign.
点评:这段评估的是星体的完成度层面,对应前面第一段的completion层面,该层面分析的是星体最终带给盘主征象的事宜的完成度、终结度,是持久的还是半途中断的。
Bob提的第一点就是星体与福点的互动关系,例子中土星在福点的12宫,所以相对来说不是很有利,因为土星位于福点12宫,将会把土星带给盘主的正面作用带走。相当于土星正要给你礼物的时候,有人跑过来把恶作剧的把你脚下的毯子抽走,让你很郁闷。
Bob提的第二点就是星体与月亮的出入相位关系,如果与月亮入相,则星体带给盘主的作用是持久的;如果与月亮离相,星体带给盘主的作用将比较短暂或者不会很持久。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即落固定星座还是基本星座还是变动星座。落固定星座将带来持久稳定不可逆转的效用,落变动星座带来的效用是跑题的,基本星座带来的转折或者无法完成的效用。
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1、比较忙,写的仓促,所以有些职能自己体会,建议把我开头说的日记多看几遍。
2、这个国外论坛的占星例子很经典,正好匹配我写的那篇日记的一段。
3、星体能够带给盘主事宜,和带给盘主事宜好与坏是两码事,第一篇日记详细说明了,本日记是拿国外的例子从三个层面分析星体能否带给盘主征象的事宜的。
文/风过无痕
之前在日记《Delphic Oracle 5中的Preliminary Natal Analysis模块》很明确的提到过这个概念,只是因为没有举例子,很少有人关注。
今天把国外论坛的例子提出来,点评一下,应该会清楚很多。
一、先把原日记的关于星体运作的能力(资格)、动力(能量)、以及最终完成度的部分重新写一遍
图片显示的是PNA dynamical level子模块,该模块采用矩阵形式分析。
列模块从fitness、energy、completion三个方面分析星体的是否具有能力(资格)、动力(能量)、以及最终完成度带给盘主它征象的事宜。
而行模块从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面三大角度,分析星体是否具有能力带给盘主征象的事宜。
1、fitness层面
该层面分析的是星体是否具有资格、天赋、能力带给盘主征象的事宜(需要指出的是,有天赋不代表有机遇!)
分析星体是否有天赋,则可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:整宫分宫下,星体在角宫、续宫下具有资格,而在果宫下则相对虚弱无力,基本不具备带给盘主征象事宜的能力。
B、与光体互动层面:星体顺行以及远离日光的情形下是有力的,可以带给盘主征象的事宜的,但是被燃烧以及逆行状况下是有很大问题的,较难带给盘主应当带给她的事宜。
C、星座层面:在入庙、擢升、自己的界主层面是极为有力的,在place of sect mate下,需要依赖sect mate的助力。
2、energy层面
该层面分析的是星体是否具有足够的动力、能里、机遇带给盘主征象的事宜,以及该事宜的影响程度大小(需要指出的是,有能量不代表有资格和能力)
分析星体是否有能量,依然可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:这次必须采用四分仪分宫了,星体在四分仪分宫的角宫、续宫具有足够的动力能量,而在果宫下则相对虚弱无力,基本不具备带给盘主征象事宜的动力。
B、与光体互动层面:星体偕日升以及处于顺逆行转换的交界状态中是极端强化的。
C、星座层面:需要从星体所落星座的三分主星层面判断三分主星带给星体的驱动力和能量。
3、completion层面
该层面分析的是星体最终带给盘主征象的事宜的完成度、终结度。
分析星体的完成度,依然可以从宫位层面、与光体的互动层面以及星座层面分析。
A、宫位层面:这次必须采用福点分宫了,简单地说星体在福点分宫的角宫、续宫带给盘主的事项是完成度高的,效果持久不可逆转的,而在果宫下则相对要弱化很多。
B、与光体互动层面:这次不是看与太阳的互动关系,而是看与月亮的出入相了。
C、星座层面:需要从星体所落星座的基本星座、固定星座、变动星座特质分析,固定星座基本会带来持久稳定,不可逆转的层面(所以相对金星落固定星座是件好事),变动星座则会最终带来事件的完成,但最终是偏题、跑题的。
二、然后把国外占星论坛希腊占星高手的例子点评一下
例子来源于astroweekly网站的
Part of Fortune aspects?
一个叫BOB的希腊占星高手,我节选他说的话如下:
Firstly, your LoF ruler is the malefic Saturn and the first condition is his fitness or ability within your cosmic fingerprint.
He is post ascending (succeedent) which means it has the potential to bring the fruits of your actions back to you, though it may not be immediate and may take a lot of work.
He is rising and direct in motion which increase his overall fitness and masculinity which is important for a masculine planet. Saturn, in order to be cosmically permitted to pursue his own agenda must be able to be seen in the sky (rising) and direct in motion.
As Saturn is in Sagittarius he is visible and in the place of a sect-mate, namely Jupiter. What this means is he loses some power to directly affect the things he signifies, but he can affect them and find outlet through his other sect-mates the Sun & Jupiter, if they are suitably placed. In plain English Saturn can affect the sign he is in, and the signs containing the Sun and Jupiter. This gives discipline to studies involving higher education and the higher mind (some foresight), creativity and some care in financial planning. It may be important to remember here that Saturn signifies old age; so much of this is describing what you may have achieved by then. As you are only young, you have your whole life in front of you, you will have many opportunities to grow, learn and adapt where by strengthening your cosmic weaknesses you can build a brighter future.
点评:这段评估的是星体的资格、天赋、能力层面,对应前面第一段的fitness层面,该层面分析的是星体是否具有资格、天赋、能力带给盘主征象的事宜(需要指出的是,有天赋不代表有机遇!)
Bob提的第一点就是星体在整宫分宫下的情况,星体整宫下落角宫最有能力,落续宫次之,最后是果宫。
Bob提的第二点就是与太阳的互动,星体在顺行和不被燃烧的情况下是有能力的,逆行和燃烧下虚弱或者不具备资格顺利带给盘主应该带来的事宜。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即星体落星座的入庙擢升守护是否能够支持或者乐于提供资源帮助宫内星。
The second condition looks at the energy of Saturn, while he may have ability to affect matters one needs to know how energetic he is in pursuing these things. First on the list here is whether he has any connection to the natal ascendant, which in your case is yes by dexter sextile. Second is whether or not he is making a phasis. Because phasis has many considerations I cannot go into them here. Suffice to say in your chart Saturn does not make a phasis in the allotted time. The third consideration is the trigon inhabited by Saturn. Schmidt says the trigons act like a wind helping one towards his destiny. In his own trigon the wind would be behind pushing one forward and assisting us, in a cooperating trigon is like a neutral (slightly favourable) wind. A foreign wind is not necessarily bad for it just shows that one will visit many unknown destinations (unpredictable). Saturn in your chart has a cooperating wind, this means that the energy behind Saturn is blowing you in a favourable direction, maybe not at light speed but he is getting to his destination in a slow but steady way.
点评:这段评估的是星体的动力(能量)层面,对应前面第一段的energy层面,该层面分析的是星体是否具有足够的动力、能量、机遇带给盘主征象的事宜,以及该事宜的影响程度大小(需要指出的是,有能量不代表有资格和能力)
Bob提的第一点就是星体与命度的关系,实际准确的说是四分仪分宫下,星体的落宫状况。
Bob提的第二点就是与太阳的互动,是否被燃烧,是否偕日升,是否处于将要逆行或者恢复顺行的临界状态,phasis简单的就是说太阳定义的星体的逆行、恢复顺行,燃烧,以及各种星力强化、减弱的临界状态。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即星体落星座的三分主星是否能够带给星体足够的动力。
Next comes 3 ways of assessing whether that planet completes or breaks off the energy he has put into his actions.
This first consideration is the planets relationship to the LoF houses. Saturn in your chart is in the 12th Fortuna house which is slightly unfavourable because it deflects away any positive actions from returning to you. This signifies that while Saturn in your chart has the ability to act and an appropriate energy level to perform, you may not hang around long enough to get the rewards you sometimes deserve. Alternatively, some other event may come up just when Saturn was about to give you his rewards, a bit like having the rug pulled from under your feet.
The second of these three conditions is lunar application which has to do with how long the effects of a particular action may last; applying would be long lasting, separating would mean moderately lasting or separated meaning of even shorter duration. In your case the lunar application is separating.
The third of these considerations is what quadruplicity Saturn is in. This consideration defines what happens to the significations initiated by Saturn; fixed is stable and long lasting, mutable indicates the actions would not be followed through to a completion, and cardinal indicate that what is started is later broken off.
Suffice to say, your Saturn occupies a mutable sign.
点评:这段评估的是星体的完成度层面,对应前面第一段的completion层面,该层面分析的是星体最终带给盘主征象的事宜的完成度、终结度,是持久的还是半途中断的。
Bob提的第一点就是星体与福点的互动关系,例子中土星在福点的12宫,所以相对来说不是很有利,因为土星位于福点12宫,将会把土星带给盘主的正面作用带走。相当于土星正要给你礼物的时候,有人跑过来把恶作剧的把你脚下的毯子抽走,让你很郁闷。
Bob提的第二点就是星体与月亮的出入相位关系,如果与月亮入相,则星体带给盘主的作用是持久的;如果与月亮离相,星体带给盘主的作用将比较短暂或者不会很持久。
Bob提的第三点就是星体所落星座的特质,即落固定星座还是基本星座还是变动星座。落固定星座将带来持久稳定不可逆转的效用,落变动星座带来的效用是跑题的,基本星座带来的转折或者无法完成的效用。
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1、比较忙,写的仓促,所以有些职能自己体会,建议把我开头说的日记多看几遍。
2、这个国外论坛的占星例子很经典,正好匹配我写的那篇日记的一段。
3、星体能够带给盘主事宜,和带给盘主事宜好与坏是两码事,第一篇日记详细说明了,本日记是拿国外的例子从三个层面分析星体能否带给盘主征象的事宜的。
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