Fangtasia【访谈】Marnie的扮演者Fiona Shaw的专访
True Blood’s Fiona Shaw on Playing the Witch, Rehearsing With Vampires, and Conjuring the Dead in Real Life
Vulture采访了TB里演女巫的Fiona Shaw，她在戏里和吸血鬼一起排练，在戏外也曾召唤死灵。
(越来越多人喜欢Marnie了^^)
Season four of True Blood is the season of the witch, i.e., the season of Fiona Shaw. In her role as the sorceress Marnie (who is possessed by the spirit Antonia), the actress is wreaking havoc among the vampires of Bon Temps: erasing Eric’s memory, melting Pam’s face, and generally bringing unwanted sunlight into their lives. It’s all great fun for Shaw, who didn’t get to do much in the way of magic as Aunt Petunia in the Harry Potter series. Now she even gets to levitate. Vulture phoned the actress in London and talked to her about spotting witches on the subway and trying to conjure the dead.
TB的第四季是女巫的主场，也就是Fiona Shaw的主场。她扮演的女巫Marnie被Antonia的鬼魂附身，在Bon Temps这个小镇掀起一连串骚乱，她抹去了Eric的记忆，让Pam的脸开始融化，并且给每个吸血鬼都送去了他们不想要的阳光。不过这些情节对Shaw都是极大的乐趣，让她施展哈利波特电影里的Petunia姨妈做不到的魔法。最新一集里她甚至可以浮在半空中了。Vulture同这位身在伦敦的女演员做了电话采访，聊到了她在地铁看到女巫和试着招魂的事。
V：Were you a fan of the books or the show before you signed on for this?
F：Alan Ball discouraged me from reading the books, which I don’t regret; I don’t want to hanker for material I don’t have. But when I started reading the scripts, and the first lot of Latin came my way, I knew there were challenges ahead! [Laughs.] And when we had the first read-through, and suddenly seeing all these vampires in person, that was very stunning. I had to adjust and remind myself that they’re all just actors. Nan and Pam, they’re my favorites. Both vampires, both very sour.
V：你是原著的书迷吗？你参演是为了这个吗？
F：Alan Ball不鼓励我读原著，而且我也不后悔听从了他。我不想渴求剧中没有的素材。但是当我开始读剧本的时候，遇到大量的拉丁文让我读不下去，我就知道之后还会有很多挑战。[笑] 等我们过完一遍剧本，接着亲眼见到所有的那些吸血鬼时，我当时就震惊了。我必须不断调整，并提醒自己他们全部都是演员，这是在演戏。Nan和Pam都是我最喜欢的角色。都是吸血鬼，都很不友善。
V：Were you disappointed they didn’t offer you a vampire role?
F：I’m glad I’m not a vampire, but I never thought about it beyond that! And you know, I’ve never seen a vampire show before this one. Can you believe it? [Laughs.] So I was very excited to play a witch. It puts the vocabulary of witches back on the imaginative scale, and it gives you a new eye for them. I’ve been playing at casting them when I’m looking at people at bus stops, on the subway: Who’s a vampire, and who’s a witch? That’s one of the delightful things about the series. Everyone looks normal in Sam’s bar, and then you look again, and you find they have more gifts, and more drawbacks. True Blood celebrates the fact that we should never underestimate anyone.
V：他们没有让你演一只V你会很失望吗
F：我很高兴我不是一只V，虽然我之前也想不到除了V我还能演什么。你知道吗我在参演TB以前从来没有看过关于吸血鬼的片子，是不是很不可思议？[笑] 所以，我非常开心可以演女巫。这让人对女巫这个概念更加联想翩翩，也让我有了全新的视角看待她们。我曾经玩一个找女巫的游戏，观察巴士站和地铁里的人们：谁是吸血鬼，谁又是女巫。这是这部剧好玩的事情之一，每个人坐在Sam的酒吧里，乍一看都是普通人，再仔细一看，就会发现他们有着各自的特异功能和黑暗面。TB剧宣扬的一个理念就是任何人都小瞧不得。
V：Did you talk to any Wiccans or attend any coven meetings to prepare for the role?
F：I did, a lot. I actually spent weeks going to meetings and visiting witches. I liked the idea that with some covens, if it gets too big, the members can move on and form a new coven and be like bees, swarm elsewhere. Rituals can be self made. You can make up a ritual. I watched them conjure the dead, and it’s very moving. It’s all to do with their beliefs, and how they call upon a family member, and you see the comfort they give to people.
V：你为了准备这个角色，可曾去找过巫士或是参加女巫的集会？
F：我找过很多呢。我专门花了好几星期去拜访巫师和参加巫术集会。我很欣赏一些集会的办法，如果一个集会的会员太多了，他们就分出一些人成立一个新会。就像蜜蜂一样，结队飞往别处。仪式可以使自创的，你也可以给自己编。我曾观摩过他们招魂，那十分打动我。因为他们对信仰十分的虔诚，而且他们召唤出家人的灵魂，你可以看到他们给别人带去慰藉。
V：Did you participate in any of those rituals?
F：I’m too busy trying to contact the living to try to contact the dead! [Laughs.] I’m happy not to do that.
V：你有加入过以上那些仪式吗
F：我太忙了，和活人联系都忙不过来，更没空管死人了。[笑] 我很高兴我没空做这个。
V：Even though Marnie is the villain of the season, she considers her actions justified.
F：Oh, they’re very justified! She’s just getting on, practicing her little religion, and in comes this big thug who says she can’t practice it. What happened to democracy?
V：虽然Marnie是本季的大霸王，但是她自己认为她的行为是正当的。
F：哦，他们当然是正当的！她只是在遵循自己的小信仰，然后一个恶棍闯进来说不许她继续。民主制度去哪儿了？
V：Although, if you’re going to have a big thug come after you, who better than Alexander Skarsgard? Are you Team Eric?
F：I’ll take him any day! [Laughs.] He’s a very nice young man. How is Sookie supposed to choose between her two vampires? It’s fantastically complicated.
V：不过，如果你被一个恶棍追杀，那Alexander Skarsgard是最佳人选了吧？你是亲Eric派的吗
F：我绝对能接受他！[笑]他是个和蔼的年轻人。Sookie怎么能从她的两个吸血鬼情人里做出一个选择？这复杂关系真是棒极了。
V：Antonia has increased Marnie's powers exponentially: She's levitating! What else are we going to see your character do?
F：Well, the question would be, is Antonia running Marnie, or is Marnie running Antonia?
V：Antonia已经让Marnie的功力倍增：她都会悬浮了！你的角色还将让我们看到什么？
F：嗯，这个问题其实是将来是Marnie控制Antonia（忍不住想模仿一下帅气的拉丁口音呢^^），还是Antonia驱使Marnie。
V：Do you mean this isn’t all the work of Antonia Gavilán de Logroño?
F：What happens in True Blood is they put two ideas together, and a baby is born in the third idea. Antonia has a particular ax to grind, because of her own rape and murder [in the seventeenth century]. But Antonia’s the most unlikely person to make non-vampires do something against their will, or hold hostages; she seeks only the willing. She only entered Marnie because Marnie begged her to. But Marnie has a deep desire to make her mark on the world, because she’s been overlooked. When Antonia infused Marnie, it brought out Marnie’s latent powers. And being empowered has had a huge effect on her ego. Her entire deportment changes, because how you carry yourself is all about how you feel about yourself.
V：你意思是这一切并不完全是Antonia Gavilán de Logroño的杰作？
F：实际上在剧中，他们把两个思想并到一起，得出的是全新的第三种想法。Antonia磨刀霍霍，有一个明确的报复目的，那就是为她的强奸和谋杀（在17世纪时）。但是Antonia最不可能做的事就是强迫不是吸血鬼的人类做不愿做的事或是拿做人质。她只寻求自愿的帮助。她是因为Marnie再三哀求了她，才进入Marnie的。可是Marnie就不同了。她极度渴望有所成就，因为她一直被人们忽视。当Antonia和Marnie合为一体后，Marnie的潜能被激发出来。同时掌控一切的感觉让她极度自我膨胀。她整个人的气场都改变了，因为你如何对外表现完全取决于你怎样看待自我。
V：A lot of the women who were executed in Antonia’s time weren’t actually witches at all.
F：This show takes it to the extreme, but the history of witchcraft is absolutely the history of the scapegoat. It’s a forgotten bit of history, but millions of women were killed during the Inquisition, and it became a hysteria. The game of True Blood isn’t nonsense. Sometimes we call these powers by different names, but it is exciting to place our fears into shapes. It’s such an innocent idea to want to jump out of your skin and gallop along! The idea that you could behave temporarily as a horse, that’s fantastic. That’s the magic of television.
V：很多妇女在Antonia的时代被处死了，但她们根本不是女巫。
F：这个电视剧里的编了一个很极端的故事，但是巫术的历史就是替罪羊的历史。这是一段被人淡忘的历史，但是罗马的宗教法庭执政期间，数以万计的妇女被杀了，激起了重重民愤。TB虚构的情节并不是胡说八道。有时我们给这些力量起不同的名字，但是能够把我们的恐惧成形地表现出来是很让人激动的。想要从人类的皮囊中挣脱出来，奔驰于原野，这是多么单纯的一种渴望！那个暂时变成马的设计棒极了。这就是电视的魔力。
来源
翻译/妖花
谢绝转载哈
Vulture采访了TB里演女巫的Fiona Shaw，她在戏里和吸血鬼一起排练，在戏外也曾召唤死灵。
(越来越多人喜欢Marnie了^^)
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Season four of True Blood is the season of the witch, i.e., the season of Fiona Shaw. In her role as the sorceress Marnie (who is possessed by the spirit Antonia), the actress is wreaking havoc among the vampires of Bon Temps: erasing Eric’s memory, melting Pam’s face, and generally bringing unwanted sunlight into their lives. It’s all great fun for Shaw, who didn’t get to do much in the way of magic as Aunt Petunia in the Harry Potter series. Now she even gets to levitate. Vulture phoned the actress in London and talked to her about spotting witches on the subway and trying to conjure the dead.
TB的第四季是女巫的主场，也就是Fiona Shaw的主场。她扮演的女巫Marnie被Antonia的鬼魂附身，在Bon Temps这个小镇掀起一连串骚乱，她抹去了Eric的记忆，让Pam的脸开始融化，并且给每个吸血鬼都送去了他们不想要的阳光。不过这些情节对Shaw都是极大的乐趣，让她施展哈利波特电影里的Petunia姨妈做不到的魔法。最新一集里她甚至可以浮在半空中了。Vulture同这位身在伦敦的女演员做了电话采访，聊到了她在地铁看到女巫和试着招魂的事。
V：Were you a fan of the books or the show before you signed on for this?
F：Alan Ball discouraged me from reading the books, which I don’t regret; I don’t want to hanker for material I don’t have. But when I started reading the scripts, and the first lot of Latin came my way, I knew there were challenges ahead! [Laughs.] And when we had the first read-through, and suddenly seeing all these vampires in person, that was very stunning. I had to adjust and remind myself that they’re all just actors. Nan and Pam, they’re my favorites. Both vampires, both very sour.
V：你是原著的书迷吗？你参演是为了这个吗？
F：Alan Ball不鼓励我读原著，而且我也不后悔听从了他。我不想渴求剧中没有的素材。但是当我开始读剧本的时候，遇到大量的拉丁文让我读不下去，我就知道之后还会有很多挑战。[笑] 等我们过完一遍剧本，接着亲眼见到所有的那些吸血鬼时，我当时就震惊了。我必须不断调整，并提醒自己他们全部都是演员，这是在演戏。Nan和Pam都是我最喜欢的角色。都是吸血鬼，都很不友善。
V：Were you disappointed they didn’t offer you a vampire role?
F：I’m glad I’m not a vampire, but I never thought about it beyond that! And you know, I’ve never seen a vampire show before this one. Can you believe it? [Laughs.] So I was very excited to play a witch. It puts the vocabulary of witches back on the imaginative scale, and it gives you a new eye for them. I’ve been playing at casting them when I’m looking at people at bus stops, on the subway: Who’s a vampire, and who’s a witch? That’s one of the delightful things about the series. Everyone looks normal in Sam’s bar, and then you look again, and you find they have more gifts, and more drawbacks. True Blood celebrates the fact that we should never underestimate anyone.
V：他们没有让你演一只V你会很失望吗
F：我很高兴我不是一只V，虽然我之前也想不到除了V我还能演什么。你知道吗我在参演TB以前从来没有看过关于吸血鬼的片子，是不是很不可思议？[笑] 所以，我非常开心可以演女巫。这让人对女巫这个概念更加联想翩翩，也让我有了全新的视角看待她们。我曾经玩一个找女巫的游戏，观察巴士站和地铁里的人们：谁是吸血鬼，谁又是女巫。这是这部剧好玩的事情之一，每个人坐在Sam的酒吧里，乍一看都是普通人，再仔细一看，就会发现他们有着各自的特异功能和黑暗面。TB剧宣扬的一个理念就是任何人都小瞧不得。
V：Did you talk to any Wiccans or attend any coven meetings to prepare for the role?
F：I did, a lot. I actually spent weeks going to meetings and visiting witches. I liked the idea that with some covens, if it gets too big, the members can move on and form a new coven and be like bees, swarm elsewhere. Rituals can be self made. You can make up a ritual. I watched them conjure the dead, and it’s very moving. It’s all to do with their beliefs, and how they call upon a family member, and you see the comfort they give to people.
V：你为了准备这个角色，可曾去找过巫士或是参加女巫的集会？
F：我找过很多呢。我专门花了好几星期去拜访巫师和参加巫术集会。我很欣赏一些集会的办法，如果一个集会的会员太多了，他们就分出一些人成立一个新会。就像蜜蜂一样，结队飞往别处。仪式可以使自创的，你也可以给自己编。我曾观摩过他们招魂，那十分打动我。因为他们对信仰十分的虔诚，而且他们召唤出家人的灵魂，你可以看到他们给别人带去慰藉。
V：Did you participate in any of those rituals?
F：I’m too busy trying to contact the living to try to contact the dead! [Laughs.] I’m happy not to do that.
V：你有加入过以上那些仪式吗
F：我太忙了，和活人联系都忙不过来，更没空管死人了。[笑] 我很高兴我没空做这个。
V：Even though Marnie is the villain of the season, she considers her actions justified.
F：Oh, they’re very justified! She’s just getting on, practicing her little religion, and in comes this big thug who says she can’t practice it. What happened to democracy?
V：虽然Marnie是本季的大霸王，但是她自己认为她的行为是正当的。
F：哦，他们当然是正当的！她只是在遵循自己的小信仰，然后一个恶棍闯进来说不许她继续。民主制度去哪儿了？
V：Although, if you’re going to have a big thug come after you, who better than Alexander Skarsgard? Are you Team Eric?
F：I’ll take him any day! [Laughs.] He’s a very nice young man. How is Sookie supposed to choose between her two vampires? It’s fantastically complicated.
V：不过，如果你被一个恶棍追杀，那Alexander Skarsgard是最佳人选了吧？你是亲Eric派的吗
F：我绝对能接受他！[笑]他是个和蔼的年轻人。Sookie怎么能从她的两个吸血鬼情人里做出一个选择？这复杂关系真是棒极了。
V：Antonia has increased Marnie's powers exponentially: She's levitating! What else are we going to see your character do?
F：Well, the question would be, is Antonia running Marnie, or is Marnie running Antonia?
V：Antonia已经让Marnie的功力倍增：她都会悬浮了！你的角色还将让我们看到什么？
F：嗯，这个问题其实是将来是Marnie控制Antonia（忍不住想模仿一下帅气的拉丁口音呢^^），还是Antonia驱使Marnie。
V：Do you mean this isn’t all the work of Antonia Gavilán de Logroño?
F：What happens in True Blood is they put two ideas together, and a baby is born in the third idea. Antonia has a particular ax to grind, because of her own rape and murder [in the seventeenth century]. But Antonia’s the most unlikely person to make non-vampires do something against their will, or hold hostages; she seeks only the willing. She only entered Marnie because Marnie begged her to. But Marnie has a deep desire to make her mark on the world, because she’s been overlooked. When Antonia infused Marnie, it brought out Marnie’s latent powers. And being empowered has had a huge effect on her ego. Her entire deportment changes, because how you carry yourself is all about how you feel about yourself.
V：你意思是这一切并不完全是Antonia Gavilán de Logroño的杰作？
F：实际上在剧中，他们把两个思想并到一起，得出的是全新的第三种想法。Antonia磨刀霍霍，有一个明确的报复目的，那就是为她的强奸和谋杀（在17世纪时）。但是Antonia最不可能做的事就是强迫不是吸血鬼的人类做不愿做的事或是拿做人质。她只寻求自愿的帮助。她是因为Marnie再三哀求了她，才进入Marnie的。可是Marnie就不同了。她极度渴望有所成就，因为她一直被人们忽视。当Antonia和Marnie合为一体后，Marnie的潜能被激发出来。同时掌控一切的感觉让她极度自我膨胀。她整个人的气场都改变了，因为你如何对外表现完全取决于你怎样看待自我。
V：A lot of the women who were executed in Antonia’s time weren’t actually witches at all.
F：This show takes it to the extreme, but the history of witchcraft is absolutely the history of the scapegoat. It’s a forgotten bit of history, but millions of women were killed during the Inquisition, and it became a hysteria. The game of True Blood isn’t nonsense. Sometimes we call these powers by different names, but it is exciting to place our fears into shapes. It’s such an innocent idea to want to jump out of your skin and gallop along! The idea that you could behave temporarily as a horse, that’s fantastic. That’s the magic of television.
V：很多妇女在Antonia的时代被处死了，但她们根本不是女巫。
F：这个电视剧里的编了一个很极端的故事，但是巫术的历史就是替罪羊的历史。这是一段被人淡忘的历史，但是罗马的宗教法庭执政期间，数以万计的妇女被杀了，激起了重重民愤。TB虚构的情节并不是胡说八道。有时我们给这些力量起不同的名字，但是能够把我们的恐惧成形地表现出来是很让人激动的。想要从人类的皮囊中挣脱出来，奔驰于原野，这是多么单纯的一种渴望！那个暂时变成马的设计棒极了。这就是电视的魔力。
来源
翻译/妖花
谢绝转载哈
本季的故事改编其实蛮不错的，书里的故事有点无厘头……什么女巫头领看上了Eric结果他不从就把他弄失忆了= =
佩妮姨妈。。 话说这人演技很不错
球叔把剧情改了后觉得“这才是应该的嘛！”
Antonia并不是关押tara一干人等人罪魁祸首啊，原来竟然是Marnie。。。晕囧
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