I did some podding and casting with no less a hero than @alanalda for his superb #ClearAndVivid series. (All right, who shouted “Hawkeye and Porkfry”? You at the back. Detention.) https://art19.com/shows/clear-vivid-with-alan-alda/episodes/c111f32b-d065-4ff9-a05d-716f4e88a7ac … @alda (or where you usually get your podcasts)
内容很有趣，也很informative, just like anything that involves Stephen Fry.
Now we stand, at the beginning of the 21st century, or at least, actually, nearly a fifth of the way through it, and we can be absolutely certain, I don’t think anybody can doubt this, that by the end of this century, we like Prometheus will have created sapient, sentient, entities of one kind or another, whether we call them bioaugmented robots, or whatever we choose to call them, driven by artificial intelligence. Nobody doubts that we will have created such things. We will be faced with exactly the same quandary that Prometheus and Zeus faced.
Some of us, the Prometheans, will say, “Give these creatures, these entities we’ve created, self consciousness,” the ability to decide on their own life strategies if you like. Give them a kind of life. Others, like Zeus, will say, “No, because if we do that, they might get rid of us. They might not need us, their creators.” We are faced with precisely the problem that Prometheus faced.
S: Stephen Fry
A: Alan Alda
A what do you wish you really understood?
S Mathematics. （这答案几乎是脱口而出的
A Ah. What do you wish other people understood about you?
S That I’m much simpler than I appear.
A What’s the strangest question anyone has ever asked you?
S There are so many. I was inclined to say, “Would you like to sleep with me?” Because I have such a low opinion of my physical self that I would find that a remarkable question. But that’s just too, too deliberately self deprecating I think.
A Well, that’s the strangest answer I ever got. How do you stop a compulsive talker?
S Being one myself, I have to be very much on the alert for other people’s signals to tell me to shut up. But generally speaking, I stop a compulsive talker by saying, “Oh, stop, stop, stop. I’ve just had this extraordinary thought.”
A Oh, what a wonderful way to do it. That’s so interesting. Well, I’m gonna remember that.
S And usually flattery is the answer because you can say, “Something you said has just made me think of something else.”
A Yeah, that’s very helpful. I have actually done that. So, next, is there anyone for whom you just can’t feel empathy?
S Well, I mean, it is hard, and I know this, people are gonna groan, but your current gangster in chief, I’m afraid arouses nothing in me but … I’m sure like many Americans, I wake up in the morning with a sort of feeling of hot lead in my stomach, a kind of weight of despair that such a brutal, foolish, unsympathetic person [crosstalk 00:55:18] in this great office.
A Number six, let’s move on to number six.
S Yes, sorry about that. Are any Republicans listening?
A How do you like to deliver bad news? In person? On the phone? Or by carrier pigeon?
S It would be on the phone I suspect. In person, well, yeah, generally speaking it has been. When friends, people I loved have died, or had an accident or something, I’ve tended, where necessary, if I felt I’ve had to inform somebody that hasn’t been informed. It wouldn’t be a text. I can tell you that, right? That’s somewhat brutal.
A So the pigeon is out?
S Yeah, pigeon is out too.
A The last question. What, if anything, would make you end a friendship?
S I think meanness. I mean meanness of spirit, not of money necessarily. But unkindness. Seeing someone I trusted being really unkind, I’m very … There’s a character in Chekhov who’s like this. Is it Masha in the … not the Masha in the “Three Sisters,” but the one in “Uncle Vanya” who says, “I can’t bear rudeness.”
I remember seeing an actress play it so brilliantly because she did that wonderful Chekhovian thing. She actually wanted to tell her. Said, “No, no, no. You don’t understand. I actually can’t bear people being rude.” She said it in such a straight way that I thought, “Oh, that’s what Chekhov means with all those lines like that.” It’s not like, “I can’t bear rudeness. I don’t like people being rude,” you know, when actors obviously … She really meant it, and I thought, “Yes, I’m actually the same.”
I’ve actually had to end lunches where there was a producer friend of mine who was just monstrous to waiters. I’ve had to say to him, “I can’t eat with you if you talk to waiters like that.” That is not heroic on my part. It’s not that I’m some sort of Communitarian Socialist who believes that we should invite that waiter to sit down and join us at the meal. I just think you could treat them nicely. I find it very hard to like someone like that.